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Page 39G transcript reads:
‘ “The defendant” said Perry “told me I would be getting off the Nuneaton
job and it would come to two-hundred pounds” …’
Judge said on recording
(0 min 12 sec):
‘ “The defendant” said Perry “told me I would be getting off the Nuneaton
job and it was going to cost me, it would come to two-hundred pounds …”
Page 40D transcript reads:
‘On 31st
October, again he said I had fifty pounds …’
Judge said on recording
(2 min 27 sec):
‘On 31st
October at the Grove Dulwich, again he said I had fifty pounds …’
Page 40G transcript reads:
‘… he said that’s when he handed over the money. Then he was cross-examined
…’
Judge said on recording
(3 min 54 sec):
‘… he said that’s the moment at which he handed over the money. Remember
that Penna and Eley came up with rather different words, which as we all
heard is, that is the power to the battery which Perry says the money wasn’t
in his possession
(inaudible due to coughing)
and said Perry he never tampered with any of the tape recordings where he
was talking. Then he was cross-examined …’
Page 41A transcript reads:
‘… where that takes you is for you to say. Perry denied having said to D.C.
Clarkson …’
Judge said on recording
(4 min 47 sec):
‘… where that takes you is for you to say. Maybe it’s not the heart of this
case. Perry denied saying to D.C. Clarkson …’
Page 41C transcript reads:
‘It’s perhaps worth just reminding you that when cross-examined Perry said
“I’m not skilful at secreting things or I wouldn’t have so many
convictions”.’
Judge said on recording
(6 min 13 sec):
‘It’s perhaps worth just reminding you that when the defendant was
cross-examining about that, it was suggested that he’d been secreting
things. His reply is “I’m not skilled at secreting things or I wouldn’t have
so many convictions”. Rivlin: ‘That’s Perry your Honour.’ Judge: ‘Perry, I’m
sorry.’
Page 41D transcript reads:
‘You will remember there was a degree of confusion …’
Judge said on recording
(6 min 41 sec):
‘It’s right to say that there was a degree of confusion …’
Page 41F transcript reads:
‘That is hotly denied by the defendant and that is really the basic issue in
the case, and it is a perfectly simple one ...’
Judge said on recording
(7 min 52 sec):
‘That is hotly denied by the defendant and that is the best take you can put
on the case, and it’s a perfectly simple one ...’
Page 42C transcript reads:
‘Well perhaps that’s not surprising if there was indeed corruption …’
Judge said on recording
(9 min 47 sec):
‘Well, in that sense it’s not surprising if there was indeed corruption ...’
Page 42E transcript reads:
‘Then he spoke to the visit of Moody and Lamber to Nuneaton looking for …
The impression they were looking for a scape goat there.’
Judge said on recording
(11 min 1 sec):
‘Then he spoke of the visit of Moody and lambert to Nuneaton giving the
impression that they were looking for a scape goat there.’
Page 43C transcript reads:
‘ “I told Perry …” Sorry, he said, “I told the defendant it was alleged that
a police officer” … ’
Judge said on recording
(12 min 59 sec):
‘I told the defendant it was alleged that a police officer” …’
Page 43D transcript reads:
‘(inaudible)’
Judge said on recording
(13 min 45 sec):
‘Not to tell Robson that he Symonds knew about it.’
Page 45H transcript reads:
‘… scared to bits about what was going on. You may think he has not axe to
grind in the case. They spoke of the money …’
Judge said on recording
(22 min 17 sec):
‘… scared to bits by what was going on. You may think he had very little axe
to grind in the case. You may think that he gives the reporters a
considerable degree of support. They are all adamant that the tapes were
never to go to the police. They spoke of the money …’
Page 48B transcript reads:
‘First (inaudible) then Mr Vernol and Collins …’
Judge said on recording
(29 min 40 sec):
‘First Mr Osborne, then Mr Vernol and Collins …’
Page 48D transcript reads:
‘… if one looks at the evidence of Mr Ford, the defendant’s expert, Mr Ford
had examined the tapes on 3rd
December 1971 …’
Judge said on recording
(30 min 11 sec):
‘‘… if one looks at the evidence of Mr Ford, the defendant’s expert, on whom
the defendant set a great deal of store, Mr Ford had examined the tapes on
the 21st
September 1971 …’
Page 49D transcript reads:
‘So if there was fabrication the only suggestion can be that it must have
been by Lloyd or Mounter …’
Judge said on recording
(33 min 24 sec):
‘So if there was fabrication the only suggestion can be can’t it, in terms
of the tip-off that Perry must have been hiding, that Lloyd or Mounter …’
Page 49D transcript reads:
‘… Location Sound Facilities. So then it comes back to …’
Judge said on recording
(33 min 48 sec):
‘… Location Sound Facilities. Then you’re no better off actually how to do
this, you may ask yourselves how could they have possibly done it even if
they’d wanted to. So then it comes back to …’
Page 50E transcript reads:
‘… it was pure accident. What he was really saying …’
Judge said on recording
(38 min 00 sec):
‘… it was pure accident. The quality is unaffected and what he was really
saying …’
Page 51C transcript reads:
‘… that isn’t in existence. The suggestion was by the defendant …’
Judge said on recording
(40 min 28 sec):
‘… that isn’t in existence. You’ll remember that the first bit, complicated
boxes had got mobile to Nagra crossed out. The suggestion was by the
defendant …’
Page 52A transcript reads:
‘There was a time when a witness said there was fourteen tapes taken and you
will remember all the witnesses of the police said there was fifteen. It is
a point …’
Judge said on recording
(42 min 13 sec):
‘There was at one stage the witnesses said fourteen tapes were taken, and
the other witnesses you will remember, all the witnesses of the police who
got the tapes said there were fifteen. It’s a point …’
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